Serbian Breakfast: Rolls, Egg with ham and (salty) cheese, yogurt and Vitamin Juice. With that there is Turkish coffee (with the ground coffee still in the bottom of the cup).
We are here in a hotel which is said to be100 years old a former socialist workers recreation thingy. The food of the catering and in the hotel is excellent and ample.
The conference itself seems to be rather Mediterranean/Balkanic in the sense that the time plan is only a general suggestion. All people (there are mainly Serbs, extremely few Croats and several Macedonians) are very nice and interested in discussing differences, time lags of the development here (there is hardly not much DSL or Wifi). Bloggers are rather influential, Croatia had a blogger explosion (500.000) because a TV station bought http://blog.hr and promoted it. The blogosphere seems to be dominated by teachers (even a principal), freelancerd and academics. Serbia has roughly 20.000 bloggers (pls correct me if I got this wrong.)
Mobbing seems to be common in the Blogosphere in Macedonia, where critical and modernistic bloggers come in conflict with the more nationalistic circles.
Ebusiness is only developing (people buy little online) and online marketing is on the rise. There are no (well known) business blogs in the region. Of course freelancers blog about their business and do that rather professionally. Pseudonyms are common both for legal and conceptual reasons (cyberidentity). Even if in smaller blogospheres like in Macedonia you might also encounter comments on your doorstep because everybody knows everybody
The conference has an extremely high attendance by women, subjectively they are even the larger number.
The topics are: a little book that collects blog essays from the region (= former Yugoslavia), an initiative for bone marrow donation (blog action), a local community system, Basic Wordpress, blog literature, state interference with the cyberspace.
Robert Basic and I have been asked to talk about Blog Monetization and have also talked about possible organization and ethics of the international blogosphere.
Aggressiveness and the wish to be distant is rather to be localized in those parts of former Yugoslavia that have separated from Serbia. Language issues are complex between the different groups that also use different alphabets to sometimes transcribe extremely similar variants.
As a summary: Blogs are surprising political and relevant for the society and ebusiness is on the rise on the Balkan.
I'll be back.
A blogroll of some of the present bloggers (moszt blog in Serbocroatic, Macedonian etc..):
Bor-grad INFO
Eniac`s Ground
Svakodnevnica
MOOSHEMA
RainDog
Veza blog
Sasvim obična priča
BITNO
Borsky ONLINE
vesic.org
Bor-grad INFO
Basic Thinking blog
eSholastik
Darko Lađević
Dragan Varagić
Oliver Gassner
miff blog
Škola bez zidova
We are here in a hotel which is said to be
The conference itself seems to be rather Mediterranean/Balkanic in the sense that the time plan is only a general suggestion. All people (there are mainly Serbs, extremely few Croats and several Macedonians) are very nice and interested in discussing differences, time lags of the development here (there is hardly not much DSL or Wifi). Bloggers are rather influential, Croatia had a blogger explosion (500.000) because a TV station bought http://blog.hr and promoted it. The blogosphere seems to be dominated by teachers (even a principal), freelancerd and academics. Serbia has roughly 20.000 bloggers (pls correct me if I got this wrong.)
Mobbing seems to be common in the Blogosphere in Macedonia, where critical and modernistic bloggers come in conflict with the more nationalistic circles.
Ebusiness is only developing (people buy little online) and online marketing is on the rise. There are no (well known) business blogs in the region. Of course freelancers blog about their business and do that rather professionally. Pseudonyms are common both for legal and conceptual reasons (cyberidentity). Even if in smaller blogospheres like in Macedonia you might also encounter comments on your doorstep because everybody knows everybody
The conference has an extremely high attendance by women, subjectively they are even the larger number.
The topics are: a little book that collects blog essays from the region (= former Yugoslavia), an initiative for bone marrow donation (blog action), a local community system, Basic Wordpress, blog literature, state interference with the cyberspace.
Robert Basic and I have been asked to talk about Blog Monetization and have also talked about possible organization and ethics of the international blogosphere.
Aggressiveness and the wish to be distant is rather to be localized in those parts of former Yugoslavia that have separated from Serbia. Language issues are complex between the different groups that also use different alphabets to sometimes transcribe extremely similar variants.
As a summary: Blogs are surprising political and relevant for the society and ebusiness is on the rise on the Balkan.
I'll be back.
A blogroll of some of the present bloggers (moszt blog in Serbocroatic, Macedonian etc..):
Bor-grad INFO
Eniac`s Ground
Svakodnevnica
MOOSHEMA
RainDog
Veza blog
Sasvim obična priča
BITNO
Borsky ONLINE
vesic.org
Bor-grad INFO
Basic Thinking blog
eSholastik
Darko Lađević
Dragan Varagić
Oliver Gassner
miff blog
Škola bez zidova
Kommentare
The guy that existed in 80's :)
p.s. Your blog is very useful, as I taught it would be.
Do you only read ernglish or also German? I might blog some resources on PR that I gathered in the last years here (some might be outdated, though ;) )
Especially because of the discussion after the Barcamp Stuttgart Frauenquote an Barcamps about the few women attending here, I'm extremely impressed of the amount of female attendees there.
It would be interesting to learn what could be the reason for such a difference.
It was nice experience listening yuo at Bor and than drinking beer with you :)
Thank you for comming at the heart of Balkan!
There must be oher ways though, like
a) more Girl Geek Dinners than Webmondays
b) GGDs on FR and Sat of Barcamps (which would then mean that the regular party would be men only by natural consequence *g*
BlogOpen in Bor was the event with more plain bloggers, than a geek bloggers. And, there are many female bloggers :)
Zum Thema Frauenquote schrieb ich ja schon ein bisschen im Artikel übers erste Barcamp für Frauen. Da das Thema von und bei Robert in den Kommentaren gerade aufkam, jetzt nochmal ein bisschen mehr dazu. Na, zumindest die Frauenquote bei den K...
Actually, this can't be the way.
But I wonder why we need special events in Germany to get more women interested while it seems to work just as it is in other countries...
(For German speaking Readers see also the discussion linked as a trackbrack)
You wrote: "I'll be back"; Let see in 2009, next BlogOpen ;)
Thanks for come to us. Next time we will be better (global).
Thanks Robert for being part of this event. Summer 09, Germany, sounds nice :)
I hope there will be opportunity for collaboration even sooner
All best from Macedonia